Audio – Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard bear attack

Is fake…it was reported on actual audio timothy was telling her to run away and u don’t hear that anywhere on this audio so yeah is fake!!!

Totally fake. The male voice sounds nothing like Timothy Treadwell, who you can hear in the documentary had a soft spoken, often child like voice and even if he was screaming I think this voice is too different. It is also very unlikely it has been leaked when only a few people have had access to the tape and it now resides in a bank vault. 

One more thing, Marilyn. About the mic. They found it in the camera bag inside the tent, so it was not actually ON Timothy. I have given a lot of thought to that. What we hear must be happening awfully closeby to the tent, with Amie sounding further away. From all that I have read, all the activity other than of course Tim being drug down the hill, happened right by the tent for parts of it to have been picked up so clearly by the microphone. Another sad thing is that the rangers found the 2 tents “down” but not destroyed. No rips, no signs of violence. Everything inside seemingly as it was left. So in my mind I can see Amie runnning behind the tents and trying to hide, with the bear just stepping over everything. I will NEVER feel the same way about ANY ANIMAL after listening to this tape. Even my cat for pete’s sake! Who sleeps with me. For those who think it cannot be the real tape because certain things are not heard on it, it doesn’t mean it cannot be a partial. Not on this tape: In the beginning Timmy goes outside to confront and drive off the bear, and she asks him if it is gone, is it coming back, has it come back…….along those lines. So he obviously is waiting outside watching it to see if it is going to turn around and come back, which it does. His scare maneuver does not work this time, then you hear Amie unzip the tent and go outside. All not on this tape we hear. One thing that confuses me about the sequence….one thing I might read says he yells to her ‘GET OUT HERE, I AM BEING ____KILLED OUT HERE!” then something else will read he yelled “GET OUTA HERE…..” I think I am hearing him say that on this tape, am I not. But which does he say I wonder. I think he was yelling for her to come help, even though he tried to drive her away when he realized his fate. If I were Amie, I believe at that point I would have taken off running to somewhere…of course, maybe she did and was drug back to the tent.

I agree with you Gary that he was committed to the bears and Amie to him.

As for the tape, again I believe it is the first 2 minutes of the six minute tape as it abruptly cuts off as you hear the bear and Tim moaning. He does yell for Amie to hit it with a frying pan (or hit it with a pan? I guess I’ll listen one more time but it really freaks me out physiologically cause I think it’s real). From what I’ve read the screams for Amie to run away come later in the tape after he is drug away from the camp and the tape runs out before she is attacked herself.

It really is a shame they didn’t leave as they had planned before the unknown bears moved in and I thought it was because the flight was canceled and they didn’t have a choice, but perhaps I’m wrong.

Undecided. The factual Grizzly man diaries state the audio is six minutes long, that Timothy Treadwell screamed at Amie to run away, that you could hear Amie beating the bear with a frying pan and she stayed with Treadwell until her death. This audio is not six minutes long, I never heard Treadwell screaming run away, I never heard Amie beating the bear with a frying pan and the audio ends with what sounds like a final attack on Treadwell and not Amie as was stated in the Grizzly diaries. I suppose this could be a byte or snipit of the attack but doubtful. The noises of the Grizzly bear attacking do sound authentic, wind, etc.

Fake Fake and more Fake

I have listened to the tape for the second time and I totally believe it would just not be possible for someone to have created this to mimic what happened to Tim and Amie. It was a rainy and windy afternoon. You can hear both the wind and the rain. You get the sensation of actually being there on that cold windy afternoon, on the site as seen in many pictures of where they were killed, on the net. Tim first went out alone, and a few minutes afterward he had yelled to Amy when he realized what trouble he was in, “I am getting ______ killed out here!” At the beginning of the tape we hear neither of them speaking. I am wondering at what point the tape began. We do not hear him yelling out the above, so it had to be at some point after. DId she at first run from the scene in total terror? Then came back? I tell you people, THAT IS NO FAKE BEAR WE HEAR DOING THE GRUNTING, and if you know anything about them and have studied them, you would instantly and easily recognize that this IS A BEAR and not some other animal, or a human trying to imitate. There is theory that the first thing the bear did was claw at his scalp. That is the first wound, trying to bring him down. Or a wound on his hip that somehow was surmised. The beginning of the tape we are not hearing the fatal and worst wounds being dealt, but obviously at the end when he is in such great agony and crying out we are. Those screams just could not be artificial. They are the sounds of some of the most real sounds I have ever heard, for sure, and my body reacts physiologically as if responding to REAL human anquish. I am not obsessing over this tape. I am, like many others obviously, conjecturing as to whether or not the actual taped recording of Amie and Timothy’s has been put on the net, which means Jewel did not keep her word to Werner to destroy it. What I am very curious about (I am intrigued by everything about Treadwell’s life) is what part Jewel plays in this. Did she allow the tape to be used and if so why. DId someone steal it from her. Did someone she trusted have access to it and just copied it, and put it back. I hope the truth behind this comes to light. I love animals and study their behavior. I just watched the video from Bertino le Pascalois (beautiful – you would enjoy it) documenting his raising of a grizzly. How I wish Timothy could have seen this. This huge grizzly became like a child to this family and LOVED THEM. So we know what they are CAPABLE of under the right circumstances. Timothy knew that capability was there, he had that 6th sense. But he was with seasoned grizzlies, not those raised from infantism around and by humans. But the point is this particular bear was showing human-like emotion. Think about it. Last night after listening to the tape I lay in my bed imagining a giant grizzly huffing at my bedroom door, coming to kill me. It is simply unimaginablem, what they went through. Humans since time began have suffered horrible atrocities at the hands of fellow humans (think Holocaust), but to be bitten into, chewed on, salivated upon by a mouth on you filled with rotten stench and gigantic teeth, ripped apart, bones crushed, to live through that until you pass out…….nothing man can create on film or stage could come close to comparison. Why he did it and how he did it may be questionable, but what is for real is that he was seeking something in nature he could not find elsewhere, something he had a driving need for, a completeness to himself he had no name for, and he did it an innocence and purity. It is there. You can see it for its beauty if you can get past wanting to know the why of it all. But there are no nirvana creatures on this earth. He came face to face with the reality that in the end he was simply facing something that can never be understood fully and tamed; a creature starving, angry, desperate, wanting to live the same as everything and everyone else who draws breath.

I just watched the movie. Being gay man myself… I had to deal with many of the issues that Treadwell obviously couldn’t.

No straight man is aware of gay sex that goes on at truckstops and public restrooms. He was gay. No doubt. In my gay circle we’d call him a flaming queen. That’s how gay he was.

I too saw this movie more about an obviously gay man dealing with (or escaping?) his sexuality the only way he knew how… to move to a barren wilderness of solitude.

The bears were an afterthought for him… a cover… a way to finance his escape.

It’s a very sad movie because he chose to live in such solitude instead of simply coming out and living life as a gay man.

The woman that worked with him told of there not being a love at first sight but feeling more of a kindred spirit. All of his so called girl friends were either lesbians or fag hags. Guaranteed. Any gay man watching this movie knows where treadwell is coming from and has probably thought of a similar escape.

I’d rather come out to society than be eaten by a grizzly. It’s sad that he chose the latter.

I wonder if he regretted those badly chosen words as he was being eaten! That thing took at least 6 mins to maul him, during which he was kicking and screaming the whole time. I am disappointed for him, as I would like to think that bears eat faster than that. If I had the choice of dying from aids or going the way he did, I think I’d take aids (I could certainly do with losing the weight!). But I reiterate, Amie got it worse! We dont even know how much she suffered as the tape ran out at six mins. I hope that the bear killed her quickly. Six mins of a bear attack is no joke! Try being beaten up for six mins or do 2 rounds with a pro boxer and you’re still not even close. I cant think of a worse way to go right now.

I dont believe that Tim Treadwell was a hero or a champion of the bear cause. I do think that he had mental health issues, and think that it was only a matter of time before something bad happened to him. He ignored direction from the park authorities, didnt carry adequate protection (better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it) and did pretty much everything you’re not supposed to around dangerous wild animals!

I dont know if anyone watched Austen Stevens bear stand off last night? He got almost as close as Treadwell to grizzleys, and they weren’t overly arsed, which just suggests to me that actually, bears are more tolerant of humans than we are lead to believe, and it may well have been encounters such as this that gave Treadwell his over confidence!

In response to people who think Treadwell isnt dead and just doing it for the publicity; Why, if he was going to fake his own death would he do it in such a way that portrays his beloved bears in such a negative way, hmm?

the man died of a gruesome death and you gonna go and make fun of him. he clearly stated that if he was to pass away from a animal attack death, he would be happy. that didn’t follow the same principal with his girlfriend. it was his last season of grizzly man when Tim Treadwell died. he girlfriend also sadly feel with him

I just saw Herzog’s film yesterday aswell. I also read the Yellowstonebearman.com link as mentioned above, as I was curious about the investigation of the scene! I have to throw in my two Cents here and say; Treadwell was a nut job, who may have meant well, but obviously didn’t know as much about wild bears as he thought he did, and agree that his behaviour would probably have lead to some random person being approached and attacked by a bear that had been partially conditioned to humans because of it! Tim chose his path and accepted the risks, which ultimately became his undoing. I think the most trajic event to come from this was the death of young Amee, who, if the transcript of the REAL audio is accurate, suffered a worse fate than tim in that she not only had to watch her boyfriend being eaten, but then had a period alone and in fear before the creature came back to finish her off. I cant even begin to imagine what was going through her head before her death! Who would you rather be here, Amee or Tim??

One more thing (benjamin); Elvis..dead, Bruce Lee..dead, Tupac..dead, Steve Irwin..unfortunately DEAD!!!!

I do agree with you on 9/11 though, that just doesn’t add up!!

greg talks alot of sense, i was interested in this after i saw it on tv, dont really want to know about tupac or presidant bush, wtf? this is about timothy, thanks

First thing, you’re not making me feel bad, it takes a lot more than a few words to make me feel bad. You have you opinions and i have mine. But when you say things like this “Greg when you write something you have to make me believe 100%, I am a lot smarter than your opinions.” you sound like a dick.

I could see how you would think money holds control, but only if you let it. I’m not a slave to that almighty dollar sign. Yes it is necessary to live but you don’t need it for happiness and when you find that money and your belonging make you happy then you are slave to it and it will have control of you.

I don’t really believe in all this conspiracism I don’t feel the need to immerse myself in a whole bunch of other peoples ideas that honestly seem far fetched. I’m not looking for answers to any questions. I came here to state my opinion and that is all.

I am 27. I have many friends that believe in all these conspiracys, they have shown me all the movies loose change, zeitgeist, and others, they too have talked my ear off and tried to get me to believe in what they think. and I just don’t care. You’re talking about the past, things that have already happened, things that are done and over with. I like to look forward, pay attention to my future, and make plans so that my future will be the way I want it to.

Basically you have your opinions and I have mine, but to say that you are smarter then my opinions you sound like a pretentious ass and no one will ever take you seriously. Yes you may know more about conspiracy theorys, but that is only cause i don’t really care if : these people are still alive, who owns N.A.S.A., if aliens exist, or who killed JFK. They are ideas that people have, just ideas with no hard evidence so they will never be anything more than that, ideas. So I doubt my thoughts will change because I’m not digging for answer that will never be found.

benjamin youre nothing but a weirdo. cheers

A few other comments mentioned this, and I will reiterate it.
It’s ok if he gambles with his life. But he put this lady in a situation that she did not expect(nor want).
He is responsible for her death. I know the details of the circumstances regarding the attack, and he was pushing his luck.

I believe this is part of the real tape, obviously it is not all of it. It is transcribed on a different website

MY OPINION! If your girlfriend tells you she is going to leave you real seriously, you have your job on its peek!!! What is the smartest thing to do? well if he just quit that equals not that many ratings, now if he dies (I seriously don’t believe) He will have all of us and them and my neighbors and yours, interested on him. death equals = fame, money immortality. If Tim was reading this i would tell him, you are great don’t be mad at your self for what you did, “this death decision”, i know that if you are not dead you did it because you love your girlfriend. IF YOU DID DIE rest in peace you were great. And for all you other people calling him gay!!!!!!! FUCK OFF! GO TO A BEAR AND SPEAK BRAVE, SCREAM AT HIM SEE WHAT THE BEAR DOES. i would of talked like a girl l.o.l.

Talk about some sorry-ass actors.

In the documentary, Grizzly Man, Treadwell’s former girlfriend was given the actual audio of the mauling. She ended up destroying it on the spot.

thats fake theres to much echoing in the voices there would have been much more crashing and noises like that and you wouldnt that those sorts of accoustics in a tent so im 99% certain it’s a fake

Tim Treadwell was a dislusional animal lover with a death wish. He personified bears and found out the hard way they were still quite wild. Unfortunately he caused the horrible death of an innocent woman who still had the sense to fear these animals. He was foolish and troubled, not a hero.